Ulice Ankh-Morpork

Kor · Moderator Wiek: 30 Dołączył: 25 Kwi 2004 Skąd: Mstuff

<temacik wyizolowałem z Going Postal i co dalej (nowe książki)>

Okładkę każdy zna. To teraz ostateczny blurb do Thuda:

"Koom Valley? That was where the trolls ambushed the dwarfs, or the dwarfs ambushed the trolls. It was far away. It was a long time ago. But if he doesn't solve the murder of just one dwarf, Commander Sam Vimes of Ankh-Morpork City Watch is going to see it fought again, right outside his office. With his beloved Watch crumbling around him and war-drums sounding, he must unravel every clue, outwit every assassin and brave any darkness to find the solution. And darkness is following him. Oh...and at six o'clock every day, without fail, with no excuses, he must go home to read 'Where's My Cow?', with all the right farmyard noises, to his little boy. There are some things you have to do."

Thud będzie oprócz wydania książkowego dostępny w formatach:
• Unabridged Audio CD
• PerfectBound e-book
• Downloadable Audio

A oto parę słów Terry'ego o fragmencie Thuda!, który już na chwilę obecną dostępny jest w internecie:

Dear Reader,

What you have here is an excerpt from my new novel, THUD! It's about a murder in the dark that resurrects an ancient mystery (that statement is true and, since this is a mystery,
carefully misleading), and about the man -- Commander Sam Vimes of the City Watch -- who must figure it all out. And avert a war at the same time. And make sure he's home by six o'clock every night to read a bedtime story to his little boy. Some things are important,
after all.

If you haven't read one of my books before, don't worry. Although I've written a lot of
them, and most are set in the same place and occasionally share characters, knowing what's gone before might enhance the fun, but it's not necessary to the overall experience. This is pretty much a standalone book and anyone who's ever read a crime novel or a thriller or a fantasy book, for that matter, should be able to hum along happily until they pick up the refrain.

Yep, I used the word 'fantasy.' But the Discworld, on which a lot of my books are set,
isn't your classic fantasy world. All the big wars were a long time ago. Now people just
want to get on in the world and make a buck or two. The people might be dwarfs or trolls or
wizards, but at the same time they can be bureaucrats or thugs or shoe salesmen. (I guess
that's why the ubiquitous 'they' have said that I'm a master of satire. Right. I didn't
know it was that easy.) It's life in a big city where a young female vampire points out
that the real problem with turning yourself into a flock of bats is keeping track of the
one that's carrying your underwear; where a werewolf can only take a B.A.T.H. if she spells
it out in her head; and where being the commander of the police department is just as much of a headache as it is here.

And, just like here, the dragons to watch out for are no longer the big fiery things in the
sky, but the same old evil one ones that live in our minds . . .

--Terry Pratchett

A teraz deser, czyli fragment z Thuda!, pierwszy 'rozdział':

Thud . . .

. . that was the sound the heavy club made as it connected with the head. The body
jerked, and slumped back. And it was done, unheard, unseen: the perfect end, a perfect solution, a perfect story. But, as the dwarfs say, where there is trouble you will always find a troll. The troll saw.

It started out as a perfect day. It would soon enough be an imperfect one, he knew, but
just for these few minutes, it was possible to pretend that it wouldn’t. Sam Vimes shaved himself. It was his daily act of defiance, a confirmation that he was. . . well, plain Sam Vimes.

Admittedly, he shaved himself in a mansion, and while he did so, his butler read out bits
from the Times, but they were just. . .circumstances. It was still Sam Vimes looking back
at him from the mirror. The day he saw the duke of Ankh-Morpork in there would be a bad
day. ‘’Duke’’ was just a job description, that’s all.

‘Most of the news is about the current. . .dwarfish situation, sir,’ said Willikins, as Vimes negotiated the tricky area under the nose. He still used his granddad’s cutthroat
razor. It was another anchor to reality. Besides, the steel was a lot better than the steel
you got today. Sybil, who had a strange enthusiasm for modern gadgetry, kept on suggesting
he get one of those new shavers, with a little magic imp inside that had its own scissors
and did all the cutting very quickly, but Vimes had held out. If anyone was going to be
using a blade near his face, it was going to be him.

‘Koom Valley, Koom Valley,’ he muttered to his reflection. ‘Anything new?’
Not as such, sir,’ said Willikins, turning back to the front page. ‘There is a report of
that speech by Grag Hamcrusher. There was a disturbance afterwards, it says. Several dwarfs
and trolls were wounded. Community leaders have appealed for calm.’

Vimes shook some lather off the blade. ‘Hah! I bet they have. Tell me, Willikins, did you
fight much when you were a kid? Were you in a gang or anything?’
I was privileged to belong to the Shamlegger Street Rude Boys, sir,’ said the butler.
‘Really?’ said Vimes, genuinely impressed. ‘They were pretty tough nuts, as I recall.’
‘Thank you, sir,’ said Willikins smoothly. ‘I pride myself I used to give somewhat more
than I got if we needed to discuss the vexed area of turf issues with the young men from
Rope Street. Stevedore’s hooks were their weapon of choice, as I recall.’
‘And yours. . .?’ said Vimes, agog.

A cap-brim sewn with sharpened pennies, sir. An ever-present help in times of trouble.’
‘Ye gods, man! You could put someone’s eye out with something like that.’
‘With care, sir, yes,’ said Willikins, meticulously folding a towel.
And here you stand now, in your pinstripe trousers and butlering coat, shiny as schmaltz
and fat as butter, Vimes thought, while he tidied up under the ears. And I’m a duke. How
the world turns.
‘And have you ever heard someone say ‘let’s have a disturbance’?’ he said.
‘Never, sir.’
‘Me neither. It only happens in newspapers.’ Vimes glanced at the bandage on his arm. It
had been quite disturbing, even so.

‘Did it mention I took personal charge?’ he said.
‘No, sir. But it does say here that rival factions in the street outside were kept apart by
the valiant efforts of the Watch, sir.’
‘They actually used the word ‘valiant’?’ said Vimes, still tidying up under the ears.
‘Indeed they did, sir.’
‘Well, good,’ Vimes conceded grumpily. ‘Do they record that two officers had to be taken to
the Free Hospital, one of them quite badly hurt?’
‘Unaccountably, not, sir,’ said the butler.
Huh. Typical. Oh, well. . .carry on.’

Willikins coughed a butlery cough. ‘You might wish to lower the razor for the next one,
sir. I got into trouble with her ladyship about last week’s little nick.’
Vimes watched his image sigh, and lowered the razor. ‘All right, Willikins. Tell me the
worst.’

Behind him, the paper was professionally rustled. ‘The headline on page three is: ‘Vampire
Officer For The Watch?’ sir,’ said the butler, and took a careful step backwards.
‘Damn! Who told them?’
‘I really couldn’t say, sir. It says you are not in favor of vampires in the Watch but will
be interviewing a recruit today. It says there is a lively controversy over the issue.’
‘Turn to page eight, will you?’ said Vimes grimly. Behind him, the paper rustled again.
‘Well?’ he said, ‘That’s where they usually put their silly political cartoon, isn’t it?’
‘You did put the razor down, did you, sir?’ said Willikins.
‘Yes!’
‘Perhaps it would also be just as well if you stepped away from the washbasin, too, sir.’
‘There’s one of me, isn’t there’’ said Vimes grimly.
‘Indeed there is, sir. It portrays a small nervous vampire and, if I may say so, a rather larger-than-life drawing of yourself leaning over your desk, holding a wooden stake in your right hand. The caption is ‘Any good on a stake-out, eh? sir, this being a humorous wordplay referring, on the one hand, to the standard police procedure’’
‘Yes, I think I can just about spot it,’ said Vimes wearily. ‘Any chance you could nip down
and buy the original before Sybil does? Every time they run a cartoon of me, she gets hold
of it and hangs it up in the library!’
‘Mr., er, Fizz does capture a very good likeness, sir,’ the butler conceded. ‘And I regret
to say that her ladyship has already instructed me to go down to the Times office on Her behalf.’

Vimes groaned.

‘Moreover, sir,’ Willikins went on, ‘her ladyship desired me to remind you that she and Young Sam will meet at the studio of Sir Joshua at eleven sharp, sir. The painting is at an
important stage, I gather.’
‘But I’’
‘She was very specific, sir. She said if a commander of police cannot take time off, who can?’

On this day in 1802, the painter Methodia Rascal woke up in the night because the sounds of
warfare were coming from a drawer in his bedside table. Again.

One little light illuminated the cellar, which was to say that it lent different textures to the darkness and divided shadow from darker shadow. The figures barely showed up at all. It was quite impossible, with normal eyes, to tell who was talking.
‘This is not to be talked about, do you understand?’
‘Not talked about? He s dead!’
‘This is dwarf business! It’s not to come to the ears of the city watch! They have no place
here! Do any of us want them down here?’
‘They do have dwarf officers –‘
‘Hah. D’rkza. Too much time in the sun. They’re just short humans now. Do they think dwarf?

And Vimes will dig and dig and wave the silly rags and tatters they call laws. Why should
we allow such a violation? Besides, this is hardly a mystery. Only a troll could have done
it, agreed? I said, are we agreed?’
‘That is what happened,’ said a figure; the voice was thin and old and, in truth, uncertain.
‘Indeed, it was a troll,’ said another voice, almost the twin of that one, but with a little more assurance.

The subsequent pause was underlined by the ever-present sound of the pumps.
‘It could only have been a troll,’ said the first voice. ‘Is it not said that behind every
crime you will find the troll?’

Vende · Gość

Niespodzianka

Thud! jest dostepny juz w Polsce, a premiera w Anglii zapowiedziana jest na 1 pazdziernika.
American Bookstore. 99 zl

settler · Pirat Rabarbar Dołączył: 14 Lut 2004 Skąd: Gdańsk

no niezle... 99zl to i tak pare zlotych taniej niz w Anglii

Sayoko · VIP Wiek: 20 Dołączyła: 16 Maj 2005 Skąd: Kraków

Eeee... mój "wujek" kupił sobie wczoraj w Kolonii "Thuda!" . To znaczy, że jak? Angole mają później niż reszta świata?

Aida · Gość

Na liście dyskusyjnej już przeczytali, więc nie wiem...

Spojler:

Jest mniej Vetinariego z Vimesem, nie ma tej znanej sceny końcowej, a Vet zwraca się już do Vimesa po nazwisku, z czego Anglicy wnioskują, że się już dostatecznie poznali i Vimes zyskał sobie sporo szacunku, a Patrycjusz stracił na tajemniczości.

Kor · Moderator Wiek: 30 Dołączył: 25 Kwi 2004 Skąd: Mstuff

Jakiej znanej sceny koncowej :roll:

Jak cos to na PM

Zielona · Gość

Ja tam uważam że Terry moze planowć tyle książek ile tylko chce, mnie to wisi, byleby tylko szybko je pisał, bo przyznam że ŚD bardzo mnie wciągnął, a szczególnie cykl o straży i wiedżmach

Aida · Gość

Re Korm: zawsze na końcu (jak widać PRAWIE) jest scena rozmowy Vimes i Patrycjusza.

btd · Wiek: 32 Dołączył: 08 Sie 2005 Skąd: Tychy

S P O I L E R

nic waznego, ale jednak..

`Good Morning, Insert Name Here! I am the Dis-Organizer Mark Five, "The Gooseberry"
Nie no, Pterry chyba jest fanem roznych gadgetow

Albo baardzo nie lubi palmow Blueberry :-D

nastepne :
`Then would you like to engage the handy-to-use Bluenose tm
Integrated Messenger Service?'

no po prostu strazacy dziwnie sie spojrzeli jak co chwile parskam smiechem

(tak, pracuje w strazy pozarnej)

drugi edit

nie no, nie moge, brzuch mnie boli ze smiechu:
'Or I could whistle one of your favourite tunes? My iHUM tm function enables me to remember up to one thousand five hundred of your all-time-'

Erpegis

Hm. No więc fabuła fajnie się zapętla, ale jak na razie mamy za wiele spólnych rzeczy z innymi częściami cyklu. Są te krasnoludzkie buce spod ziemi (T5E), mamy głupawe śledztwo z Fredem Colonem i Nobbym (J!).
Z ciekawszych rzeczy, pojawi się Doreen Winkings, hrabina Nosfrontatu, ale widziana oczyma Vimesa, (wiedzieliście, że urodzili się na tej samej ulicy?), jest też John Wcale Nie Wampir Smith, z wampirzego terminarza, czyli facet w ohydnym pulowerze.

Śledztwo nie wiem, jakie jest, ale wszystko kręci się wokół oszustw i nieuczciwości pewnych grup społecznych. Podejrzewam faceta w berecie.

btd · Wiek: 32 Dołączył: 08 Sie 2005 Skąd: Tychy

Krasnoludzkie buce? TZN?
Dla mnie to po prostu byly krasnaludy w 'szoku kulturowym' wg definicji swiata dysku i probujace wyjsc z niego metoda babci Weatherwax - naginajac swiat do siebie a nie siebie do swiata

Erpegis

No, chodzi mi o tych w skórze z Fifth Elephant.

Kor · Moderator Wiek: 30 Dołączył: 25 Kwi 2004 Skąd: Mstuff

Okładka 'na żywo' nie wygląda nawet aż tak źle:

okładka

Jak podaje Colin Smythe, Thud! to kolejny Bestlseller na brytyjskiej liście:

settler · Pirat Rabarbar Dołączył: 14 Lut 2004 Skąd: Gdańsk

Mam! Zaraz zaczne czytac (tylko jeszcze poslucham innego prezentu - Poligono Industrial).

Z tego co przegladnalem to poczatek standardowy - Vimes sie goli

.

Aida · Gość

Chlip! Ja też chcę! (Książkę, nie golić się...

)

ewik · Wiek: 30 Dołączyła: 04 Lut 2006

Niedawno skończyłam czytać....Pratchett robi się faktyczne coraz poważniejszy, ale mi akurat ten kierunek w którym sie rozwija bardzo się podoba- mam tylko problem- gdy pytaja mi się jakie książki pisze Pratchett nie mogę już odpowiadać, że to fantastyka...bo dawno juz poza ramy gatunku PTerry wykroczył.
A co do samego Thud!... Nie powiem kto bedzie miał bliskie spotkanie ze Śmiercią, ale takowe nastapi- szczegóły w podpisie :-$

Mam w ogóle wrażenie, że Thud! jest tylko wstępem do zupełnie nowego Ankh-Morpork- jeśli Pratchett bedzie konsekwentny w kontynuacji wątkow.
No, ale pożyjemy zobaczymy.
pozdrawiam
ewik

settler · Pirat Rabarbar Dołączył: 14 Lut 2004 Skąd: Gdańsk

Wstyd sie przyznac, ale jeszcze nie przeczytalem. Spowodowane jest to 3 czynnikami - 1. brakiem czasu - 2. tym, ze moj poziom angielskiego nie pozwalac czytac ksiazki w takim tepie, jak po polsku - 3. ksiazka puki co nie jest jakas szczegolna.
Tym trzecim czynnikiem chce sie zajac.
Po raz kolejny ten sam schemat - tutaj mozna wynic pelno elemetow, ktore mamy po raz kolejny. I wlasnie przez te 'po raz kolejny', ksiazka nie zachwyca.
Oczywiscie jest ciekawa. Bardzo dobra - w koncu to Pratchett. Jednak... to nie to co Going Postal. Moze, jak jeszcze troche przeczytam to zmienie zdanie zobaczymy.

A faktycznie taka powazna tematyka. Nie ma juz ataku wozkow z supermarketu, tylko zamieszki kulturowe (zupelnie, jakby Pratchett przewidzial to co bylo w Paryzu i to co mamy teraz).

Jakas pelniejsza wypowiedz sklece, gdy przeczytam do konca.

faj3r · Wiek: 32 Dołączył: 09 Sty 2005 Skąd: Toruń

Pytanie do tych co już kupili Thud!'a w Polsce (najlepiej przez Empik).
mieszkam w Toruniu i u mnie w empiku po prostu nie leży na półce, trzeba zamówić - a przy zamawianiu mi mówią, że kosztuje około 90,- pln. Co jest?! Wszystkie były zawsze w okolicach 25-40,-
Jaka powinna być właściwie cena?

wawrzyniec · VIP Wiek: 39 Dołączył: 25 Lip 2005 Skąd: Gliwice

może chodzi o grę, a nie książkę....

Aida

20-40 to pocketbook oni pewnie mają w twardej oprawie.